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Are motorists beig taken for a ride?

January 12, 2008

Are we being fleeced 
Are motorists just seen as a cash cow by the government?
With rising road tax, more speed cameras appearing and the serious rise in fuel prices, are motorists being fleeced by the Government?

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18 Responses to “Are motorists beig taken for a ride?”

  1. Paul Brown on January 15th, 2008 11:44 am

    Of course we are !!! We the british are easiest push overs and always have been.
    In France they Blockade Paris to a stand still we never stand up for ourselves which is why so many find solace in foriegn Countries and I’m doing that asap !!
    I hate this country for stealing off it’s people in every tax they can think of..
    The whole thing of of being British means greed…. well I for one would rather be European and after serving 15 years in the British Army I am embarrased by this Country and its goverment .

  2. Pete on January 19th, 2008 7:58 am

    The motorist in the UK is being completely shafted from all angles. Im certainly not voting Labour in the next election and a lot of my friends arent either. They have completely priced us out of our own country. We are even contemplating emigrating as its too expensive to live here and I think the country is starting to go into meltdown. With a spineless prime minister like we have, its just a matter of time.. As for the fuel taxation in this country…what can I say… Rip Off!!!!!!!!!!!! The governement are simply modern day highwaymen.

  3. l jackson on March 17th, 2008 10:15 am

    roll on a fuel strike. Bring it on

  4. allan browne on March 30th, 2008 5:03 pm

    Of course this goverment takes everyone for fools, i used to vote Labour but NOT next time.They have SHAFTED us all, they know that we need our vehilce’s for work ect, ect, but the amount of TAX they take per gallon is way over the top to compere to other countries. If i could afford to leave this country tomorrow ,i would due to this SELFISH goverment and SEALTH TAXES this Labour party has done. Why cant we stick together and stike at the fuel depots to bring this goverment down, as we see in other countries like France.

  5. mike on April 4th, 2008 7:10 am

    Hi all, you know i just joined recently to this site and a couple of others to do with this situation. The last budget stated that the 2p increase wouldnt take effect untill October, but yet we have had 3 price increases in the last 3 weeks putting an extra 4p on the price of fuel in Newcastle upon Tyne, I only drive a car but why is the government and i mean all government as in parties killing industry and public transport as well as the emergency services with these price increases. maybe i am wrong about the emergency services, do they get special discounts.

    it is getting ridiculous

    if the new price increases ar not due to come into effect by October why are the garages increasing prices now and so fast.

    does anyone smell the meetings that are taking place behind closed doors between the government and fuel suppliers or are the garages just taking full advatage of the british public.

    mike

  6. Jason on April 7th, 2008 9:42 am

    Time for a revolution & also to bring the power back to the UK rather than being told what to do by these Eurocrats. Tony Blair has made it cushy for himself when he went out of power & what do you think Gordon Brown will do after he’s f****d this country up. I’m sorry he has already done so. Welcome to a f****d up world. I’m in for protesting against the government against fuel & other issues this country has, so tell me when, where & the time, I will be there to support.

  7. steve on April 28th, 2008 2:38 pm

    hi i,m new to this forum but i am a courier and so don,t just use my car to get to work it is my work.we have 4 garages in our town one of them a tesco on monday diesel was £1.16 a litre ,by friday it was £1,20 a litre ,10 miles away average price is £1.16 a litre even at their tesco (well every little helps) 4 different garages 4 different petrol companies price fixing comes to mind ,or is that illegal.

  8. mike on April 29th, 2008 1:27 pm

    so as predicted, the strike is over, there is plenty of fuel, have the prices come down, have they F***

  9. mike on April 29th, 2008 1:54 pm

    so having just got off the telephone with Shell UK they state that,

    the price of fuel didnt go up with there retailers because of the fuel strike and state that the prices will probably not come down,

    the customer service rep when asked about pricing stated that 3/4 of fuel price is tax

    when asked why Diesel is now more expensive than petrol, he stated that it was because there are more diesel cars on the road.

    when i said that surely if that was the case then the price of diesel should be cheaper as more was being purchased he stated that it would not be the case it is a case of supply and demand, the more the demand the higher the price, basically it was a case of we will pay for it because we need it.

    how screwed is that, so not only are we being ripped off by the government but by the retailer aswell.

    i have an idea.

    only make the journeys you need over the next few weeks

    and see if they bring the price down

    MMMM

    i think they will put the price up because there not selling enough

    what you all think out there

  10. mike on April 29th, 2008 1:54 pm

    so having just got off the telephone with Shell UK they state that,

    the price of fuel didnt go up with there retailers because of the fuel strike and state that the prices will probably not come down,

    the customer service rep when asked about pricing stated that 3/4 of fuel price is tax

    when asked why Diesel is now more expensive than petrol, he stated that it was because there are more diesel cars on the road.

    when i said that surely if that was the case then the price of diesel should be cheaper as more was being purchased he stated that it would not be the case it is a case of supply and demand, the more the demand the higher the price, basically it was a case of we will pay for it because we need it.

    how screwed is that, so not only are we being ripped off by the government but by the retailer aswell.

    i have an idea.

    only make the journeys you need over the next few weeks

    and see if they bring the price down

    MMMM

    i think they will put the price up because there not selling enough

    what you all think out there

  11. mike on April 29th, 2008 3:54 pm

    BP and Shell fuelled the anger of UK motorists after the two firms racked up combined profits of more than £7 billion in three months.

    The AA said drivers would be shocked to learn of the £3.3 million-an-hour first quarter earnings, at a time when rising oil prices had left them struggling with average unleaded petrol prices of around £5 a gallon.

    The companies argue that while record oil prices inflated returns at their exploration and production divisions, tougher conditions were felt in downstream operations such as refining and marketing. The pair also insist they already pay high levels of tax to the Treasury.

    The figures were way ahead of City forecasts and caused shares in both companies to jump by 5% on the London market. Shell’s profits were 12% higher at 7.78 billion US dollars (£3.92 billion) while BP improved 48% to 6.59 billion US dollars (£3.32 billion).

    In January, Royal Dutch Shell reignited calls for a windfall tax after it announced annual profits of £14 billion.

    AA president Edmund King said: “The motorist feels somewhat battered from all sides, seeing the oil companies going off with cash in their pockets and the Treasury filling its coffers.

    “It’s the ordinary motorist that’s bearing the brunt of this while the oil companies and the Government are laughing all the way to the bank.”

    He called on the oil companies to reinvest more of the windfall in drilling and refining, in order to increase the supply of oil and create downward pressure on petrol prices.

    Independent charity the RAC Foundation said anger over rising petrol costs needed to be directed towards the Government, adding that a flexible fuel duty would compensate for varying crude prices.

    BP’s said it was paid an average of 90.92 US dollars a barrel for its oil in the first quarter, compared with 53.43 US dollars a year earlier

  12. Scott on May 22nd, 2008 6:25 am

    Hows this for an idea, dont know if it has been mentioned before but what about this:- What it needs is mass cooperation.
    Lots of people to drive into town & leave their cars dumped in the middle of the road.
    It will need to be coordinated to happen at the same time on the same day.
    This would bring the entire country to gridlock & standstill.
    It would take days to clear the gridlock.
    The government would have no option but to listen to its poor over taxed population.

  13. mike on May 22nd, 2008 6:51 am

    So i popped into our local service station and was stopped by the attendant who said the pumps were of for a couple of minutes as they were putting the price up on the diesel, by how much i asked 2p he calmly replied to which i said you ROBBING BAST***S ITS THE LAST TIME I BY ANYTHING FROM YOU,

  14. Nigel on May 22nd, 2008 10:29 am

    Hi

    What we have to remember throughout all of this is that 3/4 (once you include the VAT) of the price of fuel is TAX.

    To put this into real terms, petrol, without the tax would be 40p/litre or there-abouts. I cant begrudge the oil producing nations for wanting top dollar for what is their only natural resource (and a finite one at that). I do begrudge our government for its taxation policy, and for not rebating via lower taxes the massive profit that it continues to make on the increased VAT because of higher oil prices.

    By all accounts, the government could afford not knock something like 10p/litre off the price of fuel, and make the same tax revenue per litre that it did before all this started.

    We are indeed being ripped off, but not so much on the price of crude oil, but rather by those companies (shell, bp etc) that have profiteered off the back of it in their refining processes, and by the government which has treated the increased revenue as a windfall to patch up its complete miss-management of the UK economy.

    To be honest I think its time for harsh measures such as a motion of no confidence brought by the opposition to force a general election.

    Brown only has himself to blame on all this, its his mismanagement of the economy while he was chancellor that has created the mess that he now finds himself leading.

    Its the higher diesel prices that really hurt the economy because they push the price of *everything_we_buy* upwards (usually by far more than the increased costs due to fuel prices - more profeteering). Diesel remains cheaper to refine than petrol, so why the 10p differential (this time is it not due to tax). If there is a shortage in refining capacity, how come no attempt has been made to address this?

    If our government was actually serious about green issues, then they would have mandated that all diesel vehicles sold in the UK must be guaranteed to run on BioDiesel (or 50/50 mix) thus reducing our reliance on mineral diesel.

    What I cant understand is why we have not had another fuel protest… Half of Europe would likely join in on the next one. The truckers would need to be on-side though, and I believe the government made a blockade of the refineries akin to a terrorist act after the last fuel protest!

    If we simply stopped driving for a week (as we would be forced to do if there was a fuel protest!) I have a feeling that this would hit the government and oil companies where it hurts.

    Bunch of Ba*tards…

    Need I say more?

    Nigel

  15. Bob Milligan on May 23rd, 2008 6:54 am

    How much money is the government making from us? They tax the crude coming out of the North Sea . They no doubt tax it’s distribution once it is refined and then they tax it twice when it reaches the petrol stations. As the cost of a barrel of crude goes up the revenue on all these taxes also goes up. The Government are laughing all the way to the bank. The only way that we can force the government’s hand is to boycott the petrol stations by car sharing. This was done in the 1970’s as I well remember with astonishingly quick results.
    One other thing that worries me is that I drive a diesel car and am becoming increasingly concerned about the widening price differential between Diesel and Petrol. There is no logical explanation for this as diesel is cheaper to produce than petrol.
    In Conclusion the government along with the oil companies are “ripping the piss” out of the motorists of this country and at the moment the fools are letting them get away with it.

    One sickened motorist

  16. ray on May 28th, 2008 9:34 am

    hes were being ripped of i am a one man business with one large van i also have a wife with a car so we are copping it twice in the neck we may have to give up the car that means my wife willhave to give up her job only one think i can say is i hate this country this goverment they are modern day highway men rippping the motorist off left right and centre hike the bloody beer and wine and cigs up lower the fuel

    gordon brown as the song say born an as?????

    your the ripped of brittish public

  17. mike on May 28th, 2008 9:56 am

    gordon brown reckons we are in line with europe mmm thats why we have the highest price on diesel apart from norway what the F***

  18. Jeff on July 2nd, 2008 9:21 pm

    Why do we have to pay tax on the fuel, and then pay VAT on top of that, and pay road tax, all on something that most people need to carry out there normal lives?

    Why not cut the fuel tax and increase tax on luxury goods like alcohol and cigarettes?? The Government complains about Britains “Binge drinking culture” so increasing tax on alcohol would help bring this down, along with drink driving issues… Higher tax on tobbaco would encourage people to stop smoking too (yes I am a smoker before you ask). But these are luxuries.

    Cars are necessities, public transport is not available to rural Britain or to shift workers like myself that need to be in work for 6am.

    Tax the rich that want to continue enjoying luxuries and give the working class that doesnt have a choice a break!!

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